Saturday, April 21, 2012

So I noticed with Arcane Mages

If I look at the recount Pie chart, it goes like this: I have about 8 sub sections of skills which cause damage, then I look at the Arcane Mage Pie chart (in the recount addon) and it looks like 1 giant red circle (they press 1 button). Please note that this actually will out damage me, even from a slightly undergeared mage.

So my question is, why when I just press lightning bolt (my filler attack) I don't do over 50% more damage than my normal rotation? Infact I think I do something like 30% of the damage I would deal when I press the other 7 buttons. Can someone give me tips on how to press 1 button and still do great?
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Not supposed to be balanced at 80.
Does your Lighting Bolt utterly decimate your mana pool in SECONDS when spammed?

Arcane mages are able to turn mana into damage at will. It's what they do, it is the defining trait of the spec.
If I look at the recount Pie chart, it goes like this: I have about 8 sub sections of skills which cause damage, then I look at the Arcane Mage Pie chart (in the recount addon) and it looks like 1 giant red circle (they press 1 button). Please note that this actually will out damage me, even from a slightly undergeared mage.

So my question is, why when I just press lightning bolt (my filler attack) I don't do over 50% more damage than my normal rotation? Infact I think I do something like 30% of the damage I would deal when I press the other 7 buttons. Can someone give me tips on how to press 1 button and still do great?


1. Get a spell that does both a s---ton of damage while costing a s---ton of mana, making it nonviable for spamming unless you have end game gear.
2. Have all of your other spells hit like a wet noodle making them essentially functionless except to conserve mana.

Newsflash: Arcane won't be a "one button wonder" at 85. A fully stacked arcane blast costs over 9,000 mana. We probably won't have the gear to support AB spam until T14 or so.

Cheesecake is like the ice lance of desserts

It's a pie with cake in the name.
If I look at the recount Pie chart, it goes like this: I have about 8 sub sections of skills which cause damage, then I look at the Arcane Mage Pie chart (in the recount addon) and it looks like 1 giant red circle (they press 1 button). Please note that this actually will out damage me, even from a slightly undergeared mage.

So my question is, why when I just press lightning bolt (my filler attack) I don't do over 50% more damage than my normal rotation? Infact I think I do something like 30% of the damage I would deal when I press the other 7 buttons. Can someone give me tips on how to press 1 button and still do great?

Two questions/comments:

1) Why are you comparing your filler attack to an Arcane Mage's main nuke?
2) This one's a bit more complicated, you may have to actually think (a little), so be prepared. Recount DPS charts only show the actual abilities that cause damage directly. The other buttons that are requires to play an arcane mage do not show up. Stuff like mana gem, evocation, arcane power, etc. Some classes have to use abilities aside from their damage abilities to actually do damage. Weird I know, but there it is.
1) filler attack == (is directly equal to) main nuke.
2) Some would consider Elemental Mastery as a cooldown (LOL DOESNT SHOW ON RECOUNT) to be stronger than arcane power in its self.
Just be content that your class requires more than pressing one or two buttons.
In any case, in one week, this thread will no longer be relevant.
The answer obviously is that recount is broken.
1) filler attack == (is directly equal to) main nuke.
2) Some would consider Elemental Mastery as a cooldown (LOL DOESNT SHOW ON RECOUNT) to be stronger than arcane power in its self.


Thanks for your C++ 101 lesson, we're all better people now.

If filler attacks = main nuke, than Arcane Missiles and Arcane Barrage should hit as hard as Arcane Blast. Oh boy that would be fun :D
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Arcane mages are like kids with trust funds. Yea, you can buy a car and house, but how will you pay the taxes if you blow it all. Or repairs. Or retirement?
Arcane mages are like kids with trust funds. Yea, you can buy a car and house, but how will you pay the taxes if you blow it all. Or repairs. Or retirement?

Excellent example. I like that! Yeah arcane used tones mana. Sure the mage can use arcane barrage and arcane missiles. But he's trying to go for the most dps. So therefore he has to spam arcane blast. Then he OOM and you guys are moving on to the next boss.
Not supposed to be balanced at 80.


No it's not balanced for 80, but 80 is where we're at; we cannot go past 80, nor can we wear gear intended for level 81+.

So basically, we have to suck it up and should it be the case - not have fun until the expansion is released.
I don't get it. Why are you complaining about your class being more fun to play? Are you just a complainer?
No it's not balanced for 80, but 80 is where we're at; we cannot go past 80, nor can we wear gear intended for level 81+..

If people can't wait a week for an expansion, they should really reflect on their priorities.


A week ago it wasn't a week until the expansion.

Besides, my 'priorities' are fine. I need to leave this backward little country, but to do that I need to sell my house, so while I'm waiting for a buyer there's not a lot else to do that doesn't involve interacting with real-life stupid people.

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