"Complicated" Rotations... No.

[:1]There is nothing complicated playing fire, frost, or arcane. Whether it's the 1-2 buttons that arcane has or the 4-5 that fireball has, it's all simple. I don't understand why people hate on arcane or some other spec.

I used to play a rogue. I had to keep up hunger for blood every 30 seconds, rupture, slice and dice, use envenom, pop cooldowns when necessary, etc. Needless to say this @!#* isn't hard. There are mistakes that i've made, like forgetting to use hunger for blood (this was back in wotlk, assassination talent that was stupid. Basically stacked 3 times and lasted for 30 seconds and flat out increased damage.), but regardless, it's all easy.

So, while comparing 1 copper to 2 copper is an 100% increase, it's still a tiny amount of money.

TL;DR, if you can't keep up a simple spell rotation... that's just sad.
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Ok?
Please post WoL parses proving that you're capable of maintaining a nearly max DPS rotation of any kind in the context of a raid environment. If you are unable to do so, it will appear that you're talking out your ass.
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Well this is stupid.
pointless thread is ?
As frost I use about 8 spells at any given time.
I played a rogue for all of WOTLK and it was significantly easier then fire because you can predict everything and everything is easy to setup unless you are bad or get super unlucky with crits and even then its not hard.
Do us a favor and post your nonsense opinion threads on the general discussion forums.

Thanks.
i played a rogue too and mutilate was the easiest raiding spec...
envenoms kept up slice and dice and hunger wasnt hard to keep track of
mut mut envenom mut mut envenom

if u wanted to be a hard raiding spec play on a feral pre cata

you actually had to time around the crits u got and tiger's fury cd and sav roar and choosing if you should fer. bite or not judging on if u thought u could get enough pts back to re-apply rip in time before it fell off
The only thing somewhat complicated about fire is maintaining all 3 of your dots (4 if you glyphed frostfire bolt), and timing your combustion spell appropriately.
Keep playing arcane with one button and let us know how that works out for you.
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There is nothing complicated playing fire, frost, or arcane. Whether it's the 1-2 buttons that arcane has or the 4-5 that fireball has, it's all simple. I don't understand why people hate on arcane or some other spec.

If you knew anything about Mages at 85 you'd know none of them have fixed rotations: Arcane has 2 distinct phases and the rotations for them change dynamically based on gear, raid buffs / comp, procs, etc. Fire can't sustain a pure Fireball-based rotation anymore and has to dynamically weave in Scorch to keep mana up for even a 5-man fight (ontop of all the DOT monitoring / maximizing). Frost is just almost 100% procs, sometimes having to deal with multiple levels of procs and which to use when - it's "rotation" is just fishing for procs.

Clearly you're just tro-

I used to play a rogue.

Oh, my mistake. You're clearly an UBERPRO. Shh... shhh. Everyone quiet. He's going to drop some wisdom on us.
Proceed.

I had to keep up hunger for blood every 30 seconds, rupture, slice and dice, use envenom, pop cooldowns when necessary, etc. Needless to say this @!#* isn't hard.

Yeah man. Using SnD once per fight (your Envenom kept it up) and clicking HfB every 30s illustrates your complete mastery of "juggling cooldowns". Clearly you typed Rupture by mistake because it was typically a DPS loss when any other class had a bleed already on the target. But, yes, all of us Mages are super impressed with your Mut + Trinket macro spam, followed by your super skillfull pressing of the Envenom button.

You have bested us with your knowledge of complex cooldowns.

TL;DR, if you think a Wrath Mut Rogue took more skill than being Cataclysm Mage... I can't wait to see your DPS.

Fix'd.
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Sigh. What went wrong.

I was never trying to flame mages. I was saying all classes aren't really complicated.

I've played a rogue, mage, warrior, dk, shaman, druid, and paladin.

I never said that, as a rogue, I did not look up theorycrafting, spreadsheets, and what rotations were the best. I just stated execution of the rotation isn't hard, and even if I didn't research, I know enough what should be kept up by just reading the spell descriptions (this is more towards the side of things of why the hell do people in LFD do terrible DPS).

Why did I get all these responses? Because of an elitist complex where you guys feel that playing X is harder than X. I'm trying to stay neutral here, but look at the flaming on just because I played a rogue.

This game isn't hard. I play sc2 and was 2600 diamond before i stopped playing to play WoW about 2 weeks ago. That's high tier playing. It's stressful, it's rage-inducing, and it's hard. WoW definitely does not cause any of this to me. In SC2, you have to watch so many things and do so many things at once. WoW hardly calls for that type of response. It is nothing going from 1-2 buttons to 5-8 buttons.

And since I can't quote because of errors...

At being 85 mage... No, i'm not yet. I started this a week ago. I'm sure 1-81 in a week is already fast. And yes, I know the rotations, i'm not stupid, i've read the forums. Pop all CDs, arcane blast, evocate, then manage mana until next evocate by ABx2 and arcane missile or barrage. NO, that ISN'T DIFFICULT. As for procs for other specs, using a different spell when somethign flashy is in your screen, oh boy thats hard.

Good job on being ignorant just because I played a rogue. Once again, here's your elitist mentality thinking it's any more difficult playing any other class in WoW.